Reacting to Reels

Would you groom a relative’s pet without their consent? Is it rude to rehome your dogs? How much do you charge for flea baths? Listen to hear our thoughts! We also learn about the Miniature Bull Terrier (briefly) and the Miniature Schnauzer. We close out the episode reacting to reels. 

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Another grooming podcast. I'm Katie Austin.

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I'm Warner Vera.

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I'm Kat Grainy, because Ronnie left.

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And I'm Nathan Austin.

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Yeah.

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Yeah. You know, I take a lot of pleasure in everyone just talking and I'm like, just press the button and everyone's like, oh, activate.

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Shut the fucker.

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All right. So I think we're gonna start with some Reddits today.

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Some Reddit's Juan.

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Juan.

SPEAKER_11 1:22

Alright. Should we start with the Am I the Asshole? Yeah. Would I be the asshole if I took my sister's cat to the groomers? Our family has a cat who's five. She's a family cat because my mom pays for all of her care, but it's mostly considered my sister's cat. She is pretty fat. She weighs a little over 20 pounds, so she's had a hard time grooming herself. On top of that, she's an indoor outdoor, so she should be bathed occasionally anyway, according to our vet. She sheds a lot when uh when pet, due to lack of cleaning, clearly could use a bath and has small mat on her back that is only growing over time. I'm worried for her. I have brought up grooming several times to my sister, offering to help and picking up supplies for her. I did ask her first and she did pay for it. But she still hasn't done anything to help her, and it's been well over six months. I think it's a bit neglectful to leave her like this. I'm worried that if I take her and spend my own money, my mom will be angry at me for wasting money, and my sister will think I overstep since it's not my cat.

SPEAKER_10 2:14

I would say, no, you're not the asshole. You're looking out for the cat.

SPEAKER_02 2:17

I would go as far as to say I think she's the opposite of an asshole. Yeah. Right?

SPEAKER_08 2:22

Yeah, I mean, it's not like she's like, oh, I'm gonna take like take her away or take her and like you know what I mean, do something negative to her. Like she's just gonna take her to the groomer to get a bath and a brush.

SPEAKER_02 2:35

I mean, I would probably try to bathe it myself at first. I'm curious what other editors are saying because obviously you're not an asshole. Is there anyone that's like, yeah, you'd be an asshole for that? Um no, not the asshole.

SPEAKER_11 2:46

No, yeah, and she's paying for it.

SPEAKER_08 2:48

Her sister's the asshole. It's not like she's like, oh, I'm gonna take it and make my sister pay. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 2:53

Literally everyone is saying, not the asshole. Yeah. Yeah.

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Surprise.

SPEAKER_11 2:57

Yeah, girl.

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Okay. I'm I the asshole for considering rehoming my dogs. I love my dogs. I really do. When we got them, they were inside a lot and were loved on heaps. Lots of playtime and swimming. I wanted the dogs and drove their care, but my husband was on board. Fast forward eight years. We now have two kids, and unfortunately, I have developed an increasingly bad allergy to pet dander over time. Dogs, cats, rats. If it has fur, it makes me itch, nose run, worsens my asthma, and antihistamines barely take off the edge. It's devastating as an animal lover. I had to stop volunteering at a shelter and I can't snuggle the doggos. The last few years, they've been outside. They have kennels and the weather is mild. The yard is a good size. I walk them daily and my older child runs around with them sometimes, but that's it. I pay the groomer, I pay someone to clean up the yard weekly. My husband is flat out as early as he is early in a new career and has no real time for them. They have each other and seem happy, but I don't know that I'm able to give them the life they deserve. I feel like I've failed. Would I be wrong to rehome them, or is what I'm giving them enough?

SPEAKER_11 4:09

It I mean, it sounds like they're taken care of, right? Like, yes, they're outdoors, but they're getting groomed. They have they're they're feed, they're being fed, they I don't know.

SPEAKER_08 4:18

Yeah, I think I think it depends on the breed, number one. That's true. That's true. That's something I'd like to know.

SPEAKER_02 4:24

Well, I also think you're never an asshole for rehoming a dog as long as the dog you you're making sure that the dog is getting a good quality home and not worse off than what it has now. Because I do think you owe it to that dog to make sure that it is cared for. Once you purchase them, you owe them care and and a good quality life. So but as long as you're rehoming them in a place where they're gonna be loved for and cared for equally or better. I think Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 4:50

I I do agree with that because I do think there's a lot of stigma over rehoming, and a lot of it is us putting our thoughts on it though, because they're like, that dog know, you know, because um my thought too was like, Oh, eight years, she's had those dogs for eight years and you're gonna rehome them. And like the dog might the dogs might miss them a little bit, but honestly, if their new home is loving and feeds them, they're gonna be happy. Dogs are just happy, they're not, you know what I mean?

SPEAKER_02 5:19

Like, well, also who knows if they're even that well cared for. If you're making a Reddit post and you don't want to seem like an asshole, you're gonna be like, Yeah, I do this and I do that and I do that, right?

SPEAKER_08 5:27

Yeah, maybe. But I mean, I also I do agree, it does sound like it is a pretty I mean, they have shelter, they're being fed, they're being cleaned.

SPEAKER_02 5:37

If it was one dog, I would say, yeah, you should probably re-home it. But if it's two, then they have each other to And they like each other. They probably love each other.

SPEAKER_11 5:44

Yeah, I mean, maybe because I my f my first dog, my first two dogs were outdoor dogs like that. They were they would come in just to sleep at night, but as soon as we, you know, we woke up, we they would go straight out, we would feed them out there, they had their houses, they had their water, whatever, and they would be outdoor all day. Yeah, and then they would come in at night, and like that kind of made me feel bad. Like, shit, was I an asshole for that's the only thing we like, you know, because my p my dad was like, no dogs in the house, and I was like, but I want the dog anyway, you know. So it's like that we I thought we were giving them a good life because they were fed, they were groomed, they were had shelter, they you know, we I did like cuddle them when they would come in for a little bit, but like they were taken care of.

SPEAKER_10 6:24

I mean, I had a friend who had uh she still lived at she lived with her mom, and the mom didn't want the dog in the house, and that dog was spoiled, you know. She slept in the garage at night, but she had like the nicest dog beds and the nicest like sweaters in the winter, and you know, always provided food, shelter, water, and all those things. So I think I get it though, from her point of view, she feels bad because they probably lived a totally different life when they were younger, right?

SPEAKER_02 6:50

You know what though the the dog doesn't care about a nice dog bed or a nice house or a nice they care about affection and connection with another living thing living thing. So like if it's by itself, I would be like, I want to I would rather re-home this dog because I I don't think dogs should be well they're pack animals alone. Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 7:10

Well, my friend also spent pretty much she had a TV out in the garage and she sa spent, you know, she would spend her evenings out in the garage for at least two hours a night and she would spend time out in the yard with the dog, right? This lady, I feel like maybe the dogs don't get as much human attention because of her allergies, right? So that I feel a little bad. At least they have each other, but if she could find a home where she could re-home them both, where they could have a better life, then yes. But if she can't find that, finding a home for two dogs, a bonded pair is really hard, right?

SPEAKER_07 7:44

Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 7:44

So if she can't and they were to stay together and you still spoil them as much as you can, then so be it, right?

SPEAKER_08 7:52

Yeah. I I mean, every there is I read through all the comments, and honestly, not a single one of them were like, You would be an asshole. Everybody was like, not the asshole. So they were like, You would be the asshole if you didn't think about it, you know?

SPEAKER_11 8:06

Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 8:06

I mean, I always think about in Oakland where we live, uh, there was a lot of pit bulls that people would they just put them in their yard, the pit bull, and they would never interact with them. And they kind of go crazy from the lack of interaction, you know? Were these from the fridge? It feels cool enough. Can you grab me one from the fridge? I mean, like, uh he gives me attitude, but I I literally spent like five or six hundred dollars on his birthday yesterday, and he's like, but no, not the asshole.

SPEAKER_11 8:36

Not the asshole, not the asshole.

SPEAKER_10 8:37

You're looking out for the dog's well-being, right?

SPEAKER_11 8:39

Yeah. Do we have time for one more or no? Yeah, just why not? Okay. This is just a normal question. What are we charging for flea baths? My salon charges an extra $15, which I don't believe is enough. One dog with fleas puts all other dogs in the salon at risk, plus myself.

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Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 8:54

Um, I we don't charge extra for flea dogs.

SPEAKER_08 8:56

No, we don't charge if they have fleas, they go directly into the tub and they sit in the I mean, so we've said it before, right? We charge based off of time. So, like, if it takes a little bit longer, then yes, you know, like they might get charged a little bit more, but I wouldn't say it's significant, you know, like they're sitting in the tub for you know, like 10 minutes.

SPEAKER_02 9:17

And we also don't take responsibility if someone's dog gets fleas. I mean, if you take your dog outside of the house, well, every dog that comes in our salon gets uh what they need. So if it's flea shampoo, they get flea shampoo. But also, we don't take responsibility if someone's like, you, oh, my dog came back from your groomer and there's a flea on it. Like, unless it lives in your house and you never take it out of your house and only put it, bring it directly into our salon out of a bag, then you're exposing your dog.

SPEAKER_08 9:45

Yeah, you can just flee themselves. Yeah, just walking through through the parking lot, just you know what I mean. They can be literally anywhere, walking on the sidewalk, walking through the park, walking.

SPEAKER_11 9:56

What about you guys? Um, we don't charge for flea shampoo unless it's infested. If we have to, if there's like a couple fleas here and there, we'll just switch to the flea shampoo. If they say they have a couple fleas, fine. But if we're washing and we see the dog is like crawling with them, we will charge like a good like 20 to 30 bucks depending on on the infestation.

SPEAKER_02 10:14

You get to do it a couple times or let it sit for a extended amount of time to kill them all.

SPEAKER_08 10:20

Well, and then I think too, like that's your house.

SPEAKER_02 10:23

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 10:24

You know, so like it is a little different, right? Like, that's just our salon. So, like, if I need to do like a I mean, we should do it anyway, like do a bomb every once in a while, or do the we actually one that I think is kind of fun that we got for fleas is it's a little light bulb and then it's got a sticky thing underneath it. Yeah, it's fun. So then you just like over the weekends when we're closed, we'll put them out in the middle of the room because at night when all the lights are off, that one light will draw the fleas, and then when they jump, they just get stuck to the sticky and then they die. So um, you know, yeah, because then there's nobody in the salon over the weekend, so there's nothing for them to eat, and then they see the light and they're like, ooh, you know, and then they go like beep beep beep beep and then meant four fleas?

SPEAKER_11 11:10

Yeah, yeah. I have we have a machine like that for fruit flies next to our fruit bowl.

SPEAKER_08 11:14

Ah.

SPEAKER_11 11:14

But I've never thought of something similar for fleas. That's cool.

SPEAKER_08 11:17

I mean, it it attracts other bugs as well. But yeah, it does. Sometimes we'll come back and they'll be like a moth or you know, like little things like that.

SPEAKER_02 11:24

It'll feel a little bad for them. But mice and stuff, like we don't have mice, but it it's weak enough to where they would just be able to yeah, it's not like super sticky or anything like that.

SPEAKER_08 11:33

It's very minimal. But I mean, uh I agree, right? Like with what Nathan said, no matter where you go, like there is a chance walking anywhere. I mean, hell, you could w bump into another client in the lobby with their dog and pick up fleas, and that's not on us. Right, you know, like and I do keep my dogs on preventative. Um, you know, so like usually what I tell people, well, we recommend being on preventative.

SPEAKER_02 11:59

So like Yeah, and also if you're not like taking care of the like either a preventative or taking care of the dog's bedding and stuff like that, when you bring it home, it's just gonna get fleas again.

SPEAKER_08 12:08

Yeah, that too, yeah. So I really don't yeah, I I don't leave it up to us on that, you know.

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Yeah.

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Okay, so uh we were going to touch, I mean, we'll briefly touch on the mini bull terrier. Um, but as they're very similar to the regular Bull Terrier, we're not going to talk about them too much. So we'll go over the mini bull terrier and the miniature schnauzer today. So let's learn that breed. So um, we won't read the the insert about the miniature bull terrier. They are super similar. Obviously, the miniature is smaller than the traditional bull terrier. Yep, they're 10 to 14 inches, 18 to 28 pounds.

SPEAKER_02 13:59

And then uh also super adorable.

SPEAKER_08 14:02

Have they won Westminster, Nathan?

SPEAKER_02 14:03

Oh, you're putting me on the spot.

SPEAKER_08 14:05

I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_02 14:07

Um, just keep talking.

SPEAKER_08 14:08

Okay, well, what about fast cat?

SPEAKER_10 14:10

We were prepared for that. No, I had the other one pulled up. I had miniature schnauzer pulled up. We just needed just a little bit. Okay, miniature bull terrier.

SPEAKER_02 14:20

No, okay, it did not, it has not won Westminster.

SPEAKER_10 14:23

The fastest champion is 22.12.

SPEAKER_02 14:27

That's pretty fast. That's pretty darn fast.

SPEAKER_10 14:30

What's the height? Um, so they're up to up to 14 inches.

SPEAKER_02 14:36

So they're not that miniature.

SPEAKER_11 14:38

Yeah, they're not that miniature.

SPEAKER_02 14:40

Well, I guess a miniature poodle is about like the same. I think they're 15 inches, right? 15 inches and up is the standard poodle? Or 14, I can't remember.

SPEAKER_11 14:48

Why am I thinking 17? That's high. That's tall.

SPEAKER_08 14:50

That's for a grooming competition.

SPEAKER_11 14:52

Um okay.

SPEAKER_08 14:54

Um, okay, anyway, so now we're going to read about the miniature schnauzer. Who wants to read? Who hasn't read that one?

SPEAKER_10 15:02

Nathan. You won't read it. Yeah, so it goes back to you. The miniature schnauzer. The miniature schnauzer is the result of a committed effort in the 1800s to produce a small schnauzer, primarily through crossing standard schnauzers with affin pinters and poodles. Oh no, I'm just kidding. Shootles. The breed was exhibited in Europe as early as 1889 and has been bred in America since 1925. The mini was intended to be a small vermin hunter that could be more easily kept as a pet. It was established as a breed by the end of the 19th century and has enjoyed popularity around the world since its development. This small, sturdy, muscular dog with square proportions, a hard, wiry, protective coat. It has a strong, well-arched neck, a short, straight back, straight legs, round feet with thick black pads, and a high set dock tail that is carried high. A long rectangular head and a strong muzzle are accentuated by a bushy beard and mustache. The small, dark, deep set, oval-shaped eyes are accentuated by the bushy eyebrows, giving the miniature schnauzer a keen expression. The ears are high set on the head, erect and pointed if cropped, or small V-shaped, and is folded close to the head if uncropped.

SPEAKER_02 16:21

Interesting though. And I put in colors, and it's giving me breed standard colors and other colors that they come in. So for breed standard is black, black and silver, and salt and pepper. But then it's also giving me uh liver pepper, wheat and liver and tan, liver and white. But white is acceptable in Europe, right?

SPEAKER_08 16:46

Uh yes. So I'm actually on their page right now, the miniature American Miniature Schnauzer Club. So it does say the miniature schnauzer has three accepted color varieties in the United States. Um, so they recognize the salt and pepper, black and black and silver. Although white miniatures are bred and shown around the world, the color is not recognized by the American Miniature Schnauzer Club and cannot be showed in confirmation. So I don't know if those are colors that are naturally in their um color or not, because I do think there's other breeds too that they have colors you can claim that they are, but they aren't naturally occurring. Like, so I don't know if it's just to help off colors be able to be registered. Because remember, AKC is just a registry.

SPEAKER_02 17:35

Well, I feel like it's it's interesting that they do not have uh Brind or Myrtle on here. Oh, of course they don't. You see them. Well, if there's other off colors, I'm surprised you see them oftentimes in Merle, which is not a good color to get a schnauzer and it's not a proper color.

SPEAKER_10 17:49

The thing, the thing is, those are off colors, but they are naturally occurring colors.

SPEAKER_02 17:54

Yeah, but when myle is like a dangerous bred in Yes, it's uh and they are really high on the popularity. Can you guys guess? Cat can see it, so not cat, but you guys can you guess how hard they are in popularity in the the US?

SPEAKER_08 18:06

37th. Fourteenth.

SPEAKER_02 18:09

Very close. 17th out of 205. Very popular breed.

SPEAKER_10 18:14

You know, and that that reflects in the the fast cat as well. There are a lot of them. But the the champion, let's just say, how far is the first champion down? The first champion is 33rd on this list.

SPEAKER_02 18:31

Damn. And I don't know if you guys are here for this, but we always talk about the fast cat. And the reason we're talking about only the champion is because um a lot of off or or dogs that say maybe maybe like mix or something will put a down as a breed, and they'll be a lot faster because they're bred with something else. So we usually use just this champion.

SPEAKER_10 18:51

You, if you get like a PAL number or you know some of them could be well-bred dogs, they're just not champions, but a lot of them are just dogs that people say, Oh, this is much now, you know?

SPEAKER_02 19:02

How fast is the fastest?

SPEAKER_08 19:04

Well, like I've seen I've seen some of the dogs that are in the top Scotties, and they are not good examples of that. They are not typey, so they are not short-legged. So I'm like, of course, you run super, super fast. You have super long legs, and Scotties are supposed to have short legs, you know. So I assume that it's the same in other breeds. So the fastest champion, what do you think? For uh 22 miles an hour. 18. They don't seem fast to me for some reason.

SPEAKER_02 19:34

19.

unknown 19:35

Okay.

SPEAKER_10 19:36

Uh 20.22. Uh, okay, okay. Okay, but let's see. What is the fastest on here that's a schnauzer? It's 25.6.

SPEAKER_02 19:45

Extra five miles an hour.

SPEAKER_10 19:46

Jack the Joker.

SPEAKER_02 19:48

Joker the Joker.

SPEAKER_10 19:49

Clown Prince of Crime. That's a cool name. Wait, that one is not a showdog. Not a shadow. Well, he's not a champion. But he has a fast cat 11. So fast cat, I can't remember exactly how many are in fast cat. I think a thousand points. And then they go up every couple hundred is uh a degree. Fast cat one, fast cat two, fast cat three. He's a fast cat eleven.

SPEAKER_02 20:14

And uh so the miniature schnauzer, I've already said this, there's never won Westminster breed at Westminster.

SPEAKER_10 20:20

There's some pretty beautiful competitive ones there.

SPEAKER_02 20:23

And a uh and a mi and a standard have, but we'll get there. But only the mini hasn't.

SPEAKER_10 20:29

Yeah, there's 75 in the rankings. Yeah. There's 75 in the rankings as far as fast cat schnauzers go in just 2026.

SPEAKER_11 20:37

How do you guys feel about uncropped schnauzer ears?

SPEAKER_10 20:40

I like them. Compared to some breeds, I do like them cropped, but they're okay.

SPEAKER_02 20:44

What is the other call? Is it called like button or row? Or I like it when they're when they do it. I think they're called rose. When they do have the proper folded over ear. Yeah. I don't like similar to the carry.

SPEAKER_08 20:55

Yes. So I think I feel like it's really cute. When I I feel like when I was a younger groomer, I was like, no, I only like schnauzers if they're cropped or docked. But I do, it has grown on me, the natural tail and the natural ears on the schnauzer in particular, but only if they have a nice tail and their ears are folded properly. If they're like the, you know, like real funky and wild, I'm not. Or just huge bad ears, yeah. Yeah, but a proper, like folded ear, I do like. So I still prefer them the way that we do them, but I it has grown on me.

SPEAKER_10 21:32

So something I do have to say is that the schnauzer, they are can be used in grooming competitions, but if you're in intermediate or open, they have to be hand stripped, they're jackets, and they can be pretty competitive. Open people are winning with them a lot.

SPEAKER_02 21:45

And I think it's button is the maybe your style. Not a hundred percent sure, but I think it is.

SPEAKER_10 21:51

Um, so if you are interested in the schnauzer, I find them to be hard to strip compared to a lot of breeds. But maybe just because we don't get them a lot. So they don't come out.

SPEAKER_08 22:01

So they they often have a coat that is harder to keep rolled. So um previously they were known for staging. So we've discussed that briefly, where you pull them completely bald in different sequences leading up to shows, and then they would show them for a couple of months and then start all over again. Um but they are getting better coats. So they are working on them. I know that there's several schnauzer breeders that are working on better coats and they are getting nicer. Um, and I do think miniature schnauzers are um a little bit of a wimpier. I do really like them. I think they're really cool looking. I like them a lot, but I think they're a little wimpier for stripping than some of our hardier terriers.

SPEAKER_02 22:50

I also think since they are enjoying such a popular streak right now, they do you're seeing more and more schnauzers off type. Um I feel like so, yeah, there is breeders that are still working on keeping them typey and helping their, you know, give them nice hard coats. But there's also a lot of breeders out there, and I use the term loosely, that are doing the exact opposite and just breeding for coat and color and mega coat. I'll I'll also say that look, you know, like um things that are not right. So you're seeing a lot of people are seeing schnauzers, a lot of groomers that aren't typey at all.

SPEAKER_08 23:24

I do think that's actually uh that's a good fair point, Nathan.

SPEAKER_02 23:27

I do think that's can you strip my and it's like a mega coated yeah, that mega coated just super soft and fluffy. And I'm like, I can't strip this. Like, I'm not gonna portrait your dog. Yeah, so I like schnauzers a lot. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 23:39

I do, I do agree with you. I've I do think that they are similar to like we talk about Frenchies being overbred a lot, so there's a lot of commercialization to miniature schnauzers. You get a lot of off-colors and a lot of improper coat types, blue eyes, blue eyes.

SPEAKER_02 23:56

We were at a photo shoot. I can't I can't say more than that, but there was a sh- I mean, uh we'll say one more thing. There was a schnauzer there, and like it was everything was off on the schnauzer, and like I'm sure the people putting on this photo shoot when this off-colored eye schnauzer came in, they're probably like, oh great, can't use this, but let's go through the motions, you know.

SPEAKER_08 24:14

Something that I've always um wondered about, right? Because you have your miniature schnauzer, your standard schnauzer, and your giant schnauzer, but the giant and the standard are in the working class, correct? Um, so the miniature schnauzer is the only one in the terrier group, uh, which I did think was super interesting. And especially hearing them just say, Oh, they were bred down from the standard schnauzer mixed with like affin and poodle, none of which are terriers, which I find super interesting. That's actually the first time I've heard that. The affin and poodle thing, me too. Yes, yeah. And I mean, in fact, we were told by our original mentor, unless I'm crazy, that they weren't bred down from schnauzers at all. Right. That's true. That they were their own thing. Our original mentor taught us that.

SPEAKER_02 24:58

So Is that from AKC?

SPEAKER_08 25:00

That was from AKC, yes. AKC was that. So I do find it super interesting. I'd love to like find out more about it. I did just briefly look it up online and it's because also we have them in the terrier group here, but they're not in the terrier group everywhere. Right. Um, I think so. And so um it does say in North America their historical function was farm ratters.

SPEAKER_10 25:26

I was like, I I'm assuming that's where they're were classified in the terrier just because of the ratting. Right. I assume.

SPEAKER_08 25:32

But I do think it's super interesting because it says n uh despite not having British terrier ancestry. And I'm like, okay, so are all the terriers British?

SPEAKER_02 25:41

Or did any of them most of them, but I don't think it's that.

SPEAKER_08 25:44

I think it's more of their function, not their No, no, no, I know, but it's an interesting thought. And then it says Um, the persistent hunting instincts, tenacious attitudes, and wire coats fit the traditional terrier job description.

SPEAKER_02 25:57

So who were the dogs that were bred in?

SPEAKER_08 25:58

It said on there the affin and the poodle.

SPEAKER_02 26:01

So poodles are a hunting dog, but then the affin is also like um It's a toy, is it not?

SPEAKER_08 26:06

Or am I tripping? I think it is a toy, isn't it? That's what I rem I remember, anyways. So it does say uh miniature schnauzers are German. Um, they were bred to hunt and eradicate vermin on small German farms. So obviously that mirrors the functional definition of a terrier.

SPEAKER_02 26:25

I'm trying to find a picture of this schnauzer I did. I was so proud of it. I want you to put it up. It is a terrible trim, it is not a good schnauzer trim. But we all learn and grow. Oh, from back then? Yeah, from back in the day. I thought it'd be good to share with the class.

SPEAKER_08 26:41

Anyone have anything else to contribute about the Minicha Schnauzer?

SPEAKER_02 26:45

No.

SPEAKER_08 26:46

No, I can't remember what my train of thought was. Okay.

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SPEAKER_08 27:32

Now we're going to do a we're gonna have to come up with a name for this one. This is a new segment that um we decided to do. So we are going to uh real time watch some TikToks and react to them for you guys. So you'll have to let us know if you like it, if you think it's interesting or not. But we're gonna um pull up dog rumors and react to some some videos.

SPEAKER_12 27:58

Let's do it.

SPEAKER_02 28:01

Oh my god, that's so cute. It is fucking cute. So we're looking at a freaking bichon, it looks like, with a chip with a a peach, but these are so cute. They're adorable. Well, where are these people from? It says Asian styles. Well, what flag is that? Master grooming. It looks like a Chinese flag.

SPEAKER_11 28:21

Kimmy. Also, I didn't think there's music on these. Do you think that's fine? I mean, we don't we don't do monetize, we don't monetize anyways.

SPEAKER_10 28:28

Is that a big dog? I mean, is that a real dog in the back?

SPEAKER_11 28:32

I think it's a model, yeah.

SPEAKER_10 28:33

Because there's no tail. Well, he also is so like up, so perfect.

SPEAKER_11 28:37

Should I look up a specific uh hashtag? I should rank. Let's look up. Yeah, let's look up.

SPEAKER_02 28:42

Oh, I sent you the one the dog ones.

SPEAKER_11 28:44

Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah. Let's do that one. Hold on. Okay.

SPEAKER_08 28:51

Oh my god, these are crazy. These AI, they're just freaky. I hate them. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 28:59

With the scissors. Also, like the first time he was like cutting the dog on the other side, and then he like cut the air.

SPEAKER_08 29:06

If only we could groom like this.

SPEAKER_02 29:08

So for you that are just listening. It's one of those crazy. We call it a comb, but it's it's like a brush.

SPEAKER_08 29:14

It's like an AI de shedding video with like huge breeds.

SPEAKER_02 29:17

It's so obviously AI.

SPEAKER_11 29:19

Do people think this is real though?

SPEAKER_08 29:21

Some do. Do people really think that's right? I feel like some people do. So I think this might actually be real. This is real. The cat looks real. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 29:28

But if you look on standing at a pier peacefully, though?

SPEAKER_02 29:32

If you look on uh on I'm sure all the groomers actually here have seen these videos AI.

SPEAKER_11 29:38

But he's mad when he gets scissors. You see that? Oh, oh. He's gonna bite him. Great.

SPEAKER_10 29:42

But that's like shearing a sheep, and basically it's just taking all the color off the dog.

SPEAKER_02 29:46

So a funny comment someone put on here. Um, it's uh I don't know, their their like tag is what's the ways.

SPEAKER_10 29:53

No, no, the dog in the background looks like it could be. But they're like doing it backwards, backwards, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 29:58

So uh a funny comment that was on here is um where's the dislike button? I'm like, yes, exactly. Where's the dislikes button?

SPEAKER_10 30:06

We just brushing my cat at the pier.

SPEAKER_02 30:11

None of it's real. It's all AI. You think it's all of it, all of it? So that just goes to show you how much if you're gonna be like.

SPEAKER_10 30:16

Well, AI is getting good. But this, this is just ridiculous.

SPEAKER_02 30:20

And it's they have it, it's almost like a competition style thing, and people are there watching.

SPEAKER_08 30:23

It looks like Jonathan David's in the back. It does.

SPEAKER_02 30:27

Jonathan, when did you be getting to the AI videos?

SPEAKER_10 30:30

The one in the back here, he was brushing it properly, and then but not anymore, yeah. All right. This one's just like stripping off all the color of the dog. They're like, oh look.

SPEAKER_02 30:44

So this video is just some boxer looking like like a freaking wit. I mean, it looks like a skinwalker right now. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_10 30:52

He's doing his best, okay? Look at his little no.

SPEAKER_02 30:55

What is the audio?

SPEAKER_00 30:58

He's really quiet for real, lest he knows you. He's funny as hell though.

unknown 31:02

He's an OU type.

SPEAKER_02 31:04

So he's just looking crazy. One of the comments, this comment has 2,000 likes and it goes, and it says, Imagine him at 3 a.m. in a uh in the dark at the end of your hallway.

SPEAKER_10 31:15

I think it's I think he's kind of cute. He's just a gangly teenage boxer. Yeah, he's cute. He'll get muscles unless I neutered him already.

SPEAKER_02 31:24

Another person said, This one has 15,000 likes. This comment, he says, he kind of scares me, but that's okay. It's like, what the heck?

SPEAKER_08 31:33

People are funny.

SPEAKER_11 31:34

So let's look up the dog grooming tag. Oh my god, look at that under.

SPEAKER_12 31:45

This is groomer Toronto.

SPEAKER_08 31:48

Four hours of work and 50 seconds. Oh, they did a good job. Yeah.

SPEAKER_06 31:53

Say hello to Charlie. The first place he went to started his haircut and then said, No, actually, this is too severe. He should see it back. Which, okay, yes, he's matted, but it's not too severe. But that's not that severe, yeah. No, he's trying cutting it at home. Which of course then he got too cut. So now he's here. And are we gonna brush this? No. No, we are not. We are gonna shave him down, start fresh, and even everything out. And I thought this would be a good opportunity to share some of the things. I thought he was gonna be bad for the matted dogs. Yeah. Even with a severely matted coat, you don't want to stab at the matting. Right. Not only can this be uncomfortable for the dog, but it increases the chances of catching delicate skin, and you might cut them. You want to find a path to let the blade glide underneath the tangles. Let the blade do its job. And this is another job, cat the dog her.

SPEAKER_11 32:32

I'm pausing it. I like that she's uh educating, she's not bashing the owner. She's just saying we have to. Yeah. And she's just doing what she has to do. We have she's explaining why she has to go under the mats. I think this is great. I think it's educational. It's not bashing anybody, and she's just the dog's comfortable. I think she did a good job.

SPEAKER_10 32:50

Yeah, it's behaving.

SPEAKER_11 32:51

Okay. Now we're gonna look at people that are pissed.

SPEAKER_08 32:56

Okay, let's see.

SPEAKER_11 32:57

Swiped to see the worst haircut of his entire life.

SPEAKER_08 33:01

I'm waiting. Oh. Oh, he's got those creepy eyes, too. Oh no.

SPEAKER_11 33:10

Okay.

SPEAKER_08 33:11

It also looks like they shaved like why they shave. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 33:16

Oh dear.

SPEAKER_10 33:17

His body doesn't look horrible.

unknown 33:19

No.

SPEAKER_02 33:19

Well, they gave him a poodle face.

SPEAKER_10 33:20

Yeah, I wonder. His eyes don't help, though.

SPEAKER_11 33:23

Also, she probably didn't post the before pictures of him being like hell-matted.

SPEAKER_08 33:26

Wait, go back to the one right before the right before the shave, that one. For reference. This is him after his oh, after his first puppy cut. But puppy puppy cut unhelpful. Like not real haircuts. You know? Unhelpful. Yeah, I would like to see the like.

SPEAKER_02 33:43

What are the comments? Let's see see some of the comments of this disgruntled.

SPEAKER_11 33:46

I am a duck roomer who usually defends other duck roomers, but I can't defend this at all. I thought I was prepared. I was not prepared.

SPEAKER_02 33:54

The mean face is so funny. Oh my god.

SPEAKER_11 33:57

Do you have do you guys ever scroll through the reaction?

SPEAKER_08 34:00

Sometimes. Yeah, I would like to see the before the groom. Yeah. Because I feel like I can't give this one a fair. But also this picture, it's at the beach. Did she take it home and blow dry it after?

SPEAKER_11 34:16

You can already see the matted.

SPEAKER_10 34:17

The matting, it is matted on the face. I'm surprised she got the legs that long. They look matted too.

SPEAKER_02 34:21

Yeah. This groomer probably worked really hard for that trend. Yeah. And then they're just on here.

SPEAKER_08 34:26

She was on a fight for her life.

SPEAKER_02 34:27

There's like a hundred thousand likes on it. Oh, look at this one. Oh, oh, oh.

SPEAKER_11 34:31

How do you we've talked about this before, but do you guys like think groomers should be posting pick videos or stuff of like struggling dogs?

SPEAKER_08 34:40

So I think it just I understand bringing awareness, right? She did a good job.

SPEAKER_02 34:44

She I that's how I would again.

SPEAKER_08 34:47

I do think it's important to bring awareness of dogs that are naughty. Um, but I do.

SPEAKER_02 34:55

How many followers does she have? She must have a ton reactions like this, huh? 941,000.

SPEAKER_10 35:00

Yeah, I do I I agree. I do feel like you have to bring awareness, but also from the pet parent standpoint, which a lot of people would watch it from the pet parent standpoint. They're like, they're gonna, I don't know. They're gonna, oh my god, the poor dog. No, I think she's showing I mean I mean I think this one's not that bad. I've seen some pretty bad ones.

SPEAKER_02 35:19

Well, she she's not me handling it all. No, no, and she obviously knows what she's doing. She has a fucking almost a million fucking followers, right?

SPEAKER_08 35:27

So, like well, that doesn't mean anything.

SPEAKER_02 35:29

No, but I mean like she's doing a good job. That's what I would do. I would held the dog close to me like that, just like that. I think she's doing a great job.

SPEAKER_10 35:35

No, the the this one is not that bad, but I've seen some really bad ones where they're pinning the dogs, and the dog's wearing five muzzles, and it's got a belly band, and uh and a groomer's helper, and like three leads, and their dog's eyeballs are popping out of its head, and it's you know, it's like the dog is absolutely terrified. The dog's actually not being that bad for other than its nails.

SPEAKER_12 35:57

All right, check the comments.

SPEAKER_11 35:58

Oh, the comments, let's see. She's adorable. You did a great job. They act like it's the end of the world. She looks so cute though. Good job. That cute face at the end, as if she was not being the demon the entire time. That's funny. Thank you for showing this. I'm a vet assistant working with animals since I was a teen, and a lot of people think working with dogs is always easy. Okay, so I stand corrected. I I do think that it's appropriate to share naughty dogs for education purposes.

SPEAKER_02 36:22

I think if done properly, if done properly.

SPEAKER_10 36:25

Like I feel like she wasn't, you know. She wasn't overly rough.

SPEAKER_08 36:29

She wasn't, you know, she did a good job. I don't love the grammar's helper, but I understand uh why she might need well that that's what I said. Like, I understand why she might have needed it for this. Um, you know, I think in our salon, we don't use it as much because we have each other and we all help each other. So we somebody would have held the dog while somebody else did the nails.

SPEAKER_03 36:53

All right, what else we got?

SPEAKER_04 36:54

And every day's a dream when I'm carrying your love with me.

SPEAKER_02 37:01

This video is ranking dog fail, dog dreaming fails.

SPEAKER_10 37:05

That one is uh matted for sure.

SPEAKER_02 37:09

Oh yeah. Oh my god. I'm ready, I'm ready. So that one was all hair gone. Obviously, the dog was matted. Oh my god, this is mushroom bangs.

SPEAKER_11 37:20

I love straight across bangs on chitsus.

SPEAKER_08 37:23

I like it.

SPEAKER_11 37:24

That's funny.

SPEAKER_08 37:25

I understand why somebody might not like it, but I do think you like it.

SPEAKER_11 37:29

I wouldn't keep it. I would just take the picture and then take it.

SPEAKER_08 37:31

I would take the picture and then trim it. Yeah.

SPEAKER_02 37:32

Up another doodle. It's gonna be shaved, I bet. Yeah. No. They shaved its whole head and it's not.

SPEAKER_08 37:38

I would have taken his ears down with a half.

SPEAKER_11 37:43

Oh my god. He's looking like, oh, you did this to me.

SPEAKER_02 37:47

Like the video is like bad grooming fails, but obviously it's just people that are not brushing their dogs.

SPEAKER_08 37:51

Okay, exactly. For the Pomeranian, but I don't know what she asked. But also, that dog is very look at it.

SPEAKER_11 37:57

It's like a home groom. Yeah, it does. It was probably the parents. That one you could just tell it's matted.

SPEAKER_08 38:02

Oh, I seen that one.

SPEAKER_11 38:04

Okay, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 38:04

I the one of the bichons, you have to go back up.

SPEAKER_11 38:07

Okay. Uh when you go.

SPEAKER_08 38:10

She groomed them. Yes.

SPEAKER_11 38:12

When I first read the caption, I was pissed.

SPEAKER_08 38:14

Yeah, same thing.

SPEAKER_11 38:15

I was mad because she made it seem like it was a groomer. And at the end, she was like, and because it's the dogs talking, and at the end she was like, the groomer is my mom. And it's like, oh okay. Yeah. So I mean, for a while.

SPEAKER_07 38:30

Is that the afternoon? She did it in the back.

SPEAKER_11 38:32

She did a great job.

SPEAKER_07 38:32

The one's head is really cute. I like the one with the bobbed ears, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 38:36

And I think that's why I was mad because she was like trashing the groomer, and I was like, The groomer did a great job. What is she talking about? And then I was like, and for a pet parent.

SPEAKER_08 38:43

I mean, for a for a pet parent, yeah. Like the the legs could be cleaner, cleaner, and the blow drying brush out could be better. But all things considered, it's not that bad. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 38:54

I think the one has a really cute face. It's symmetrical.

SPEAKER_11 38:58

Oh, there's those bangs again. Oh, cute.

SPEAKER_02 39:01

I like cockers, English cockers with bangs.

SPEAKER_10 39:03

I don't. I don't like top nuts and uh no. Yeah, I agree. I'm not I don't love it, but that's you know, it's each throne.

SPEAKER_11 39:09

Alligator rolling.

SPEAKER_10 39:10

This looks like it's done in someone's home.

SPEAKER_01 39:12

And automatically assume that this person is a dog abuser. Some groomers will look at this video and understand that this is what is called alligator rolling.

SPEAKER_10 39:22

Okay. I do feel like it's a little tight. It's a little high. It's high in the dark. The dog is stressed out more by how taunt it is than about what's happening to its legs.

SPEAKER_08 39:32

And being uh, and this is why I said like I'm not generally a fan of the groomer's helper, um, because I feel like that's hurting the situation, not helping.

SPEAKER_11 39:43

Yeah, this is definitely over restraint. I I bet you if if that was both if both were loosened, well, I don't know, I wasn't the groomer, but I would assume that he's more uncomfortable being held out and stretched that much.

SPEAKER_10 39:53

His legs barely touch the table.

SPEAKER_11 39:55

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 39:57

And he's not in the video, he's not trying to bite as much as he's trying to get out of the he's stressed out about the has a cut on its arm.

SPEAKER_02 40:07

It's got a couple couple. Yeah, okay. What does it say? Go back, I want to hear.

SPEAKER_04 40:10

I'm so sorry. Mama girl, I'm so sorry. Uh-uh. I'm sorry.

SPEAKER_10 40:18

I wonder if she's well.

SPEAKER_04 40:22

I'm so sorry.

SPEAKER_11 40:23

Little cut.

SPEAKER_04 40:25

Oh, you look like a chicken do.

SPEAKER_11 40:27

Is she apologizing because she did it? I think she did it.

SPEAKER_10 40:30

And it looks like she's came back from the vet. There's a cone on the ground. Oh, yeah. Oh, ouch. She got stitches under there.

unknown 40:37

Uh-uh-uh. Uh-uh. Let's go hardy.

SPEAKER_10 40:41

Poor dog. I have a feeling she did that.

SPEAKER_05 40:49

Um, this is a pelted dog coat. You might see videos going around on TikTok and it's a good idea. I haven't had a pelt like this. I know it's been a minute. With all this hair. And then it came back naked. And it, you know, a lot of them say counter days, Pets Mart, or wherever the dog was taken to. Uh, this is why your dog comes back naked.

SPEAKER_10 41:11

Now a lot of So I do when I do get pelted dogs like that, I save it and hand it to the owner. Yeah. This is why.

SPEAKER_08 41:19

Or at least bring it out and show it to them. Yeah.

SPEAKER_11 41:22

Have you guys seen those like pelt the walls of shame when people put up like pelting?

SPEAKER_10 41:26

I don't like that because I don't like the idea. I throw it away if they don't if some of the some of them want, they're like, Can I have this? And I'm number one, I think if you want to.

SPEAKER_08 41:35

Number one, I think it's gross. Yeah. I'm not, it's not sanitary and it's ugly. But I also I don't while I don't think it's cool that dogs are pelts. Okay, I didn't say I don't want to shame them.

SPEAKER_10 41:46

Yeah, I don't think there's anything wrong with that one before.

SPEAKER_11 41:49

With this one?

SPEAKER_03 41:51

People don't take their dogs to pet smart and petco.

SPEAKER_11 41:56

So this looks like a petco, and petco, you have to use a groomer helper. That's a policy. They make you on every dog.

SPEAKER_08 42:03

Because so we went and taught at a class in Alaska and it was at a regular salon, but they all were like, How come you're not using a groomer's helper? And we were like, Oh no, we don't do that usually. Like, we train the dogs to stand the way we want them to stand. And then afterwards, they were like, Oh, well, we all started at Petco and you have to use it. So we're just used to it.

SPEAKER_02 42:22

Uh imagine being the company that made the who is the company? It's um groomer helper. Groomer's helper. Yeah, and you're like, uh Pet Smart or Petco. I think too I think it used to be in your policy that you have to use this. Every single one. I know it's a hundred dollars a piece, but yeah. You know, so I wonder if they must have sold a lot of those things.

SPEAKER_10 42:38

I wonder in those videos that are they talking about the groomer's helper or like are they thinking he's being brushed too aggressively? Uh maybe both. So I was recently accused of brushing a dog too harshly.

SPEAKER_02 42:49

Well the lead looks pretty tight. The tight lead is pretty tight. I also think that this he's probably following the um he's probably following the rules, and this is what it looks like.

SPEAKER_10 42:59

Yeah. But also the dog's not hiding.

SPEAKER_08 43:01

He's just yeah, he's just brushing the tail. I don't think it's that big of a deal. He's not crying, he's not turning, he's not and he's holding the base of the you know, the tail. Yeah, he's just pulling it through. I don't see anything wrong. He's not like using a comb and trying to wrench tangles.

SPEAKER_02 43:14

I think to the untrained eye, it looks a little tough. I mean, it is a little hard, I think.

SPEAKER_08 43:20

But nothing that I would have even though.

SPEAKER_11 43:21

Well, look, he's even holding the base of the tail to make sure that he's not pulling, you know? Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:26

Like pulling the dog's actual tail.

SPEAKER_11 43:28

Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 43:28

Yeah. I definitely think this person is just being very incredible. This is a okay. So I this is the one, right, Nathan? Oh, yeah.

SPEAKER_02 43:34

Yeah, this is the dog. The lady is definitely going.

SPEAKER_12 43:36

I'm gonna turn off the sound so we can hear whatever's happening. I can I zoom in. Okay.

SPEAKER_02 44:23

Are you fast wording it?

SPEAKER_08 44:24

Yes. No.

SPEAKER_11 44:26

No, no.

SPEAKER_08 44:27

Okay, never mind. I thought you were.

SPEAKER_11 44:28

It sounded like it's a little bit.

SPEAKER_02 44:34

Oh my god. The lady's obviously frustrated. Yeah.

SPEAKER_10 44:45

I mean, I've seen way, way worse, but the way she's yanking him back with his leg like that, she's gonna hurt him.

SPEAKER_08 44:52

I think there's multiple things, right? This dog isn't on a proper lead. It's not wearing a happy hoodie, which would have helped muscle, uh muffle the noise. But honestly, I don't even feel like he's being that bad. She's just trying to rush the blow dry. And instead of just taking that little bit of time to slow down, she's stressing the dog out and wrenching its body in ways that is unnecessary and causing it. Because I feel like it's fine until she wrenches like a leg. It's like then it does, you know. And I'm like, just slow down.

SPEAKER_11 45:26

I also feel like if taking an extra five to ten minutes ruins your entire day, you need to look at how you're scheduling your dogs and how you're running your business and pricing and everything. Because like five minutes spending an extra five, 10 minutes so this dog is comfortable should not like what's stopping them from doing that, you know? They're overscheduled, probably a really busy day. But yeah, that's a lot.

SPEAKER_08 45:53

Yeah, so it's just unfortunate because I don't even feel like the dog was really that bad, and just like a couple of small things just slowing down a little bit, a proper lead, and a happy hoodie would have to be fine.

SPEAKER_02 46:04

I wonder if she's got in trouble for that.

SPEAKER_10 46:05

Just backing off the dog. The dryer is like right against its skin. She's gonna cause whip mats, if anything.

SPEAKER_11 46:12

Oh, this is on doesn't have very many views, so it's not the original one. Um, how do you guys feel about wall attachments like that versus like a pole? Do you guys what do you guys dry dogs? Do you guys have a table with a pole or do you guys have a wall like that?

SPEAKER_08 46:26

Independent tables. Yeah, we have uh tables with poles. And I mean I have arms, I guess, grooming arms. Yeah, grooming arms. I have used wall attachments like that, and I don't necessarily have a problem with them, but I do think that I for whatever reason I do think dogs just behave better better on tables. I I think with the walls, sometimes they tend to like press their bodies up against the wall, climb them, or climb them. Yeah, and you're not always I don't know that people are always sanitizing the wall between dogs, or you know what I mean? Like, and I think they use it sometimes. It can be frustrating because then when they're pushing their body up against it, they're re-wetting themselves, or it's hard to get that spot. And it can be I feel like it ricochets water off. And sound.

SPEAKER_10 47:11

Yeah, yeah.

SPEAKER_11 47:12

That's a little loud from this side and it's bouncing back to the bottom.

SPEAKER_10 47:15

I never thought of it on the other screen.

SPEAKER_02 47:17

I think the uh like the lady is just oh is is stressed out and she's she's frustrated. She's take she's frustrated and she's taking out it on the dog, and in turn the dog is acting out even more. So feel her emotional. It's always in the groomers. It's always the groomers' fault anything happens like this because they're the one with the ones that they're the human with the free will and know-how.

SPEAKER_08 47:42

Take a step back, take a minute, put the dog away, take a minute.

SPEAKER_02 47:47

I love this. I love it. Big huge body and the tiny little legs. I love it, yeah.

SPEAKER_08 47:51

Oh, we just said the cat is crazy.

SPEAKER_02 47:56

What the fuck?

SPEAKER_10 47:57

I don't know if that's AI. Oh my god. I don't condone shaving golden, but it is funny. Uh Drake just had two clients ask for this haircut.

SPEAKER_02 48:08

Did he do it? Yeah, he did. Did it come out pretty cute?

SPEAKER_10 48:11

Uh so they were still growing out their bodies because they'd been clipped clippered down the last one.

SPEAKER_02 48:15

Is there anything else good? Because I think we have enough time.

SPEAKER_11 48:17

Yeah, I want to see what this girl says. Five dog breeds that are notorious for being bad for grooming. And we used I don't know if she's a groomer or not, but we should agree or disagree with the general for dog grooming.

SPEAKER_09 48:31

Preface by saying this is just my opinion. This is what I've experienced in the dog grooming industry for 20 years. You don't have to agree. Number one, and my biggest one, and I will say this, and people don't like when I say this, but German shepherds agree. Agree very rare that we encounter shepherds. Yeah, people reactive, that it's not dog remote.

SPEAKER_11 48:49

They're a lot strong, they're very strong, and I feel like a lot of very strong-willed to not in shape or form.

SPEAKER_09 48:54

When they're like a person, a one-person dog. I really think it is because the breed has been so.

SPEAKER_08 48:58

They need a job, too, and most of them don't have jobs.

SPEAKER_09 49:01

We have done the police canines for our city, and both of those dogs were very good. Both of them are shepherds. Number two would be shih tsus. We seem to agree. Agreed. Really? We get a lot of naughty shihuts.

SPEAKER_10 49:10

I don't know. I feel like we get they're like naughty, but they're not that naughty. Some of the naughtyest small dogs that we've done there have been shihuts.

SPEAKER_02 49:18

I think a lot of our shih tsus are really good, but when they are naughty, they're pretty naughty. We have a couple shih titsus that are fantastic for me. But the bathers, they try to eat them every single time they're in. But for me, they're great, so okay.

SPEAKER_09 49:33

Shih tsus, but it's kind of rare that you have great shits. The majority of them are pretty bad. They don't like their feet touch, they bite, they do not like their face done. Um, I don't know why. I think it's also partially because the amount of shits I need to see aren't properly taken care of, so they're not groomed on a regular schedule. And that makes a big difference for a dog and it's tolerance for grooming. Number three would be labs. Uh, I love labs. I I think most of our labs are pretty good.

SPEAKER_11 49:52

Yeah, I think they just have a lot, they shake a lot.

SPEAKER_08 49:55

And I think they're not the brightest. So then, like, they're always like trying to dive off the table or smack you in the face, or they're very obnoxious. They can be obnoxious. I agree with her on that.

SPEAKER_10 50:06

Well, you get those like the field lines, those ones are more obnoxious.

SPEAKER_09 50:11

I couldn't make this list without putting this breed on here, but cocker spaniels. I knew cockers were gonna be in there because of the spaniel.

SPEAKER_11 50:18

Oh, because of the tag on top?

unknown 50:19

There's nothing. I don't know.

SPEAKER_11 50:21

Okay, so at Petsmart, all the dogs used to piss and shit. All the cockers.

SPEAKER_08 50:24

Yeah, but I don't have that problem anymore.

SPEAKER_11 50:26

Neither do I. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 50:27

All of our cockers are pretty much.

SPEAKER_11 50:28

I think she's kind of tripping on that one.

SPEAKER_08 50:30

Oh, yeah. When we were too naughty, wait, what's the nice what's the top one?

SPEAKER_02 50:34

So they do it, pretty neurotic.

SPEAKER_09 50:36

Very odd and gem and uh there's nothing. I don't know if there's another dog that even compares to them. They're nasty. Number five.

SPEAKER_10 50:44

No, they're nasty.

SPEAKER_11 50:45

Dachshins. No way. Oh my gosh.

SPEAKER_10 50:48

They're naughty for nails a lot, though. But that's it. She didn't put one. Most dogs are naughty.

SPEAKER_11 50:52

She didn't put doodle on there. She didn't put doodle. Yeah. Who is this girl? She's crazy. Husky.

SPEAKER_08 50:57

Husky, yeah. Husky's on my top. See, that's what I mean. Like, I would put certain dogs over a shih tzu. I would put certain dogs over. I don't know, shihtsu's on my top five. A dochin wouldn't even rate it for me. Like, yeah, they can be naughty for nails sometimes, but that's it. Okay, guys.

SPEAKER_02 51:14

Did we see any video that we think we should comment? I think it should be more curated. Yeah. So from now on, why don't we just send them to AGP if we see something that we want to comment on? Okay, cool. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:26

I think that sounds good.

SPEAKER_02 51:27

Agreed. Sign us out then. Yeah.

SPEAKER_08 51:30

All right. Well, thanks for joining us on another episode of another grooming podcast. We'll see you next week. Bye.

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